MGTOW

The Delusion Women Continue to Perpetuate

2010-07-26T04:10:00.000-07:00

Below is an article published by the Times of India that attempts to reinforce the delusion that females-tending-towards-a-more-mature-disposition continue to perpetuate: "Women are at their attractive bets [sic] when they are 31— that’s the precise age when, according to a survey, they are considered most beautiful."

Women are Most Attractive at 31

The poll of 2,000 men and women, commissioned by the shopping channel QVC to celebrate its Beauty Month, found that females in their early thirties are seen as more attractive than younger girls as they are more confident and stylish.

The research concluded that beauty is as much about personality as appearance.

It was defined as being confident by 70 per cent, having good looks by 67 per cent and being stylish by 47 per cent.

Almost two thirds of women surveyed - 63 per cent - agreed that "with age, comes beauty".

The same number said that as they get older, they care less about what others think of the way they look.

And 51 per cent said as they age they shed their insecurities and feel prettier.

The survey also found that men now spend more on their looks than women—their monthly bill including gym and hairdressers is 119 pounds, compared to girls'' 105 pounds.

"This research shows what many have always suspected - real beauty is about more than just good looks, but a combination of confidence, style and personality too,” the Scotsman quoted Sue Leeson, marketing director of QVC, as saying.

"We know that treating yourself to something that makes you feel good, experimenting with hairstyles, and knowing the make-up to wear that makes you look your best will enhance your confidence and make you feel at your peak,” she added.

Older women are attractive to who, for what? If it comes to men's primal drive to mate, then it's young women that are most attractive (18 to 25 or so) from then on physical attractiveness gradually diminishes. What men will find attractive in a woman for a relationship may have more to do with a woman's personality hence...maturity, but this is a consideration for compatibility, not sexual attractiveness.

Women need to consider that projecting their primal sexual desire and attraction to a man's personality, confidence, status, onto men & expecting them to be attracted to the same is a great example that women in their 30's and beyond do to delude themselves into feeling better, having concentrated on a career, being 'strong and independent' only to find their biological clock is ticking. Unfortunately in reality men, especially high status men in demand will rather commit to a younger woman who is more physically attractive, has more fecund years ahead of her.

Men of lower status will more likely accept a women who is older and has had a career. It's all about what one can get, not what one thinks they deserve.

Another issue is women's proclivity for hypergamy, seeking men of equal or higher status than them. This causes further problems for successful career women. Sadly the reality is that many women will have to settle for less than they desire.

There are actions & consequences for everything, and feminism has done a great job of veiling these from modern women.

Vajazzle your Vajayjay

2010-03-09T01:07:00.000-08:00

Do you want to know more about vajazzling your spartan and bland looking muff? Maybe you think that a vajazzled honeypot will make you feel all special and different, a unique little snowflake?

Well, if so you have come to the wrong place....now go away and vajazzle your snatch somewhere else.

Men's Organisation Inadvertently Promotes Misandry and Emasculation

2010-02-15T08:47:00.000-08:00

I came across a blog which is part of bettermen.org that advocates: "trusting relationships with other men, to make commitments to be Bettermen, and to be held accountable to [their] commitments". They hold retreats and mentoring groups for men in the Southern California area of the US.

Wayne Levine, the founder posted on the blog, 5th February:

Last Wednesday, the men of BetterMen were featured in a satirical look at men in our culture.

Though we felt it was a great opportunity to gain exposure for our circle, and for men’s work in general, not everyone agrees.

Some enjoyed the entertainment value and could appreciate the format of the show. Others objected to placing our work up to ridicule.

Here’s a link to the segment. Tell us what you think.
BetterMen on The Daily Show

Here was my response on the BetterMen blog:

Do men need more ’satire’ like this on top of the wider media that depicts men as bumbling idiots and women as ’strong and independent’ who need to save men from themselves? Do you expect that men will want to join you after seeing that? It was ridiculing the men’s movement, whether it is mytho poetic or otherwise.

Warren Farrell who is a well known leader in men’s issues has written many books including: The Myth of Male power and Why Men Earn More.

One such men’s issue he explains why the pay gap exists, women choosing lower paid, more flexible jobs like nursing, social work, work less hours than men and take time off between pregnancies to take priority of their children. Men work in more competitive jobs that require more time invested with higher pay to provide for their families.

Incidentally single women are earning more than their single male counterparts in many areas of the world:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1145973/How-paid-men-Stay-single.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/urban-women-earn-more-than-men-460217.html

So before anyone even gets a chance to hear about Warren Farrell, he is a laughing stock because of this ’satire’ that few who have never heard of him will take him seriously. Now if that is your idea of introducing a man to your organisation, I can say I strongly disagree with your methods.
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Actually, you have egg on your faces, you’ve been had by the daily show.

Your Men’s organisation has allowed itself to be collectively emasculated and is the antithesis of what it should be standing for. Men should be standing up to this kind of ridicule from women (Sami B) not sitting there passively allowing it to happen and satire or not the result is still the same.
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Here is the reality of what men must deal with, whether they realise or not:

Men’s Issues: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57EWApOypIQ

Misandry – Men Don’t Exist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZAuqkqxk9A

Equality – Suffrage and UK voting rights: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d25esQeBoU

TVOntario: Men, Maleness, and Equality: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLJ0vXXWEYo&feature=related

Domestic Violence – 1 in 4 Women: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN-TUkPRuY4

2010-01-22T00:12:00.002-08:00

Has the fashion industry and the images it communicates damaged relationships between men and women?

2010-01-19T04:33:00.000-08:00

I came across this poll via a site called The Good Men Project and felt compelled to reply. Below is the response I posted on polldaddy.com:

The fashion industry has not damaged relationships between men and women as it is a commercial industry and supplies what is demanded. Women make the decision to support the industry by buying the merchandise.

If this question is implying that the 'unrealistic' portrayals of fashion models is affecting women's self esteem, well maybe this is the case, however what do men have to do with this?

Nothing.

Men in the vast majority, do not appreciate emaciated, skinny women and have no influence on women's fashion. So if women are blaming men for the lack of adipose tissue of models, maybe they should start looking in the mirror.

If women do not want skinny cat walk models they should vote with their purses, as by not doing to is only aiding and abetting their continued usage.

I notice that so many of the models look rather androgynous, like adolescent boys with little or no breasts and lacking an hourglass figure. Many fashion designers are gay men and this maybe the reason why fashion models look the way they do, due to their own preference.

Have a look at what men find attractive: Playboy, FHM, Maxim magazines for example and what men find attractive, is...what men find attractive, we have no choice in the matter (just as women do not either), it is biologically determined. Now, some men like women who are thinner, some voluptuous, but pretty much all red blooded men like a woman who is feminine, with an hourglass figure.

Women's magazines have half the pages containing pictures of beautiful women, they are not the norm and are chosen for their aesthetic appeal. If women's self esteem is being affected by this, stop buying those magazines.

Everyone, even men can get down about how they look. However women don't want to hear us men complaining, (you know it's true) as women generally find men complaining (lamenting about our low self esteem) unattractive, possibly more than the beer gut of the complainer. So we men gotta suck it up (pun intended) and/or do something about it or we are gonna find ourselves at the computer, looking up naked (yet healthy hourglass figured) women to er....now where's that box of tissues?

So suck it up ladies and/or do something about it!

PUA Analysis of Robbie Williams

2010-01-19T03:19:00.000-08:00

Below is a video of Robbie Williams debut in the US. A great example of how and why he is so popular with women/girls. He builds himself up to be the Uber Alpha, from relative obscurity (in comparison to his native UK), with this performance.

He also spectacularly AMOGs fellow Alpha, Simon Cowell who is a guest on the show.

But the annotations detailing how Robbie Williams wins over his audience from a Game/Seduction/PUA perspective is the highlight of this video.

Definitions: AMOG, Buying Temperature, Buying Temperature Spike , Compliance Test, Indicator of Interest, Kino, Nimbus, PUA, Rapport, Social Proof, State

Tupac on Female Relations

2009-12-31T10:17:00.000-08:00

Men are all Bastards

2009-12-07T19:15:00.000-08:00

Women in modern society do not appear to comprehend their own sexuality. There seems to be a great dissonance between what women actually sexually respond to in men and what women say they find attractive in men. Only the most insightful women will admit it to themselves, let alone acknowledge it.

Not Fair, by Lily Allen:

Oh he treats me with respect
He says he loves me all the time
He calls me fifteen times a day
He likes to make sure that I'm fine
You know I've never met a man
Who's made me feel quite so secure?
He's not like all them other boys
They're all so dumb and immature

There's just one thing that's getting in the way
When we go up to bed you're just no good it's such a shame
I look into your eyes I want to get to know you
And then you make this noise and it's apparent it's all over

It's not fair and I think you're really mean
I think you're really mean
I think you're really mean
Oh you're supposed to care
But you never make me scream
You never make me scream

Oh it's not fair and it's really not ok
It's really not ok
It's really not ok
Oh you're supposed to care
But all you do is take
Yeah all you do is take

Oh I lie here in the wet patch
In the middle of the bed
I'm feeling pretty damn hard done by
I spent ages giving head
Then I remember all the nice things
That you ever said to me
Maybe I'm just overreacting
Maybe you're the one for me

There's just one thing that's getting in the way
When we go up to bed you're just no good it's such a shame
I look into your eyes I want to get to know you
And then you make this noise and it's apparent it's all over

It's not fair and I think you're really mean
I think you're really mean
I think you're really mean
Oh you're supposed to care
But you never make me scream
You never make me scream

Oh it's not fair and it's really not ok
It's really not ok
It's really not ok
Oh you're supposed to care
But all you do is take
Yeah all you do is take

There's just one thing that's getting in the way
When we go up to bed you're just no good it's such a shame
I look into your eyes I want to get to know you
And then you make this noise and it's apparent it's all over

It's not fair and I think you're really mean
I think you're really mean
I think you're really mean
Oh you're supposed to care
But you never make me scream
You never make me scream

Oh it's not fair and it's really not ok
It's really not ok
It's really not ok
Oh you're supposed to care
But all you do is take
Yeah all you do is take

A prime example of this disconnect, so ubiquitous within popular culture, that women have between their primal sexual drive and the fairytale that women are supposed to be attracted to, is the proverbial guy that does all these 'nice' things for her. She feels a certain affection towards him, however she does not sexually respond to his niceness. She gets frustrated and ends up resenting him for it.

Foreplay doesn't start in the bedroom, it starts from the moment a couple meet. If the man shows interest via deference or niceness towards her, he sub-communicates that he has no other attributes at his disposal and this results in the appearance of character weakness. If he instead showed interest via confident nonchalance, this would demonstrate that he has high social value and many other options. Women innately understand this, but if they (and society at large) dared consciously acknowledge this, would mean opening a Pandora's box full of red pills.

This is the reason why women are attracted to and keep going back to men who treat them badly or beat them, because they gravitate towards confidence and dominance in a man, but confuse it with aggression.

Of course most women don't want to be treated badly or beaten senseless, and though 'nice guys' are great to share your problems with, they cannot light the flame of desire in a woman and a dangerous and aggressive man is preferable to them. This attraction to these men is frequently intellectually rationalised by women as 'men are all bastards', so as to avoid any responsibility for their choices in men, as if all men are the same.

Many men don't understand when women get with these brash, caddish guys who don't seem to care, don't 'treat her right' take liberties and women still come back for more.

The problem is, that this isn't tempered so much anymore with what women would have considered of a man in the past, other attributes like loyalty, honesty, virtue for instance because masculinity is seen as something negative in society due to the denigration of it via feminism. Subsequently, there are few confident, masculine guys who are also respectful of women as a man who merely stands up to a woman by disagreeing with her or refusing to do her bidding is likely to be accused of being a misogynist, oppressor, born out of wedlock, having a small penis, fragile ego, can't get laid or is intimidated by 'strong and independent women' etc. So instead we have guys who have no backbone, trying to be women's friends letting women get away with anything for a few sexual crumbs, or guys that don't care and just fuck'em and chuck'em.

Womanizer, by lily Allen:

First wave feminism was the catalyst of great change in women's options. Yet this would have happened whether it was called feminism or something else. Because of the efficiency of modern technology and women working during World War II while men fought, are such examples which gave women the chance to prove themselves that they were capable of much more.

However with second and third wave feminism came the ideas that men are rapists and pedophiles with the ensuing hysteria and distrust, affirmative action, quotas for jobs and education, pushing to get women to be 50:50 in everything when less women are interested in pursuing careers in politics, IT or education in hard sciences etc. No fault divorce became law, where women make 70 percent of initiations, leaving men with half their assets gone, alimony and seeing their kids once a fortnight, if lucky. This is no great incentive for a man to get married if there is a 50 percent chance of divorce and he is forced to pay through the nose, just because she doesn't 'feel the love' anymore.

Women are liberal with sex in modern society but what is interesting is that the men who do want to get married, many are the very men that women find undesirable in the first place, the 'nice guys'. However, the men who where in demand in the past, previous to feminism and sexual liberation, got married due to convention. But in modern times, these men who have many women interested in them, can have the milk without buying the cow. Many of these men are of high status and risk loosing much in a divorce. This is compounded by women's hypergamous nature in that they are attracted to men of higher status than them, but these men are becoming fewer as women themselves become more successful.

These successful women concentrate on their careers and/or have their freedom and autonomy in their 20s and 30's, only wanting to settle down as their sexual marketable value is declining and the exciting guys they love are now looking at younger women. Problem is, that men who were previously ignored when these women were young and wild, feel resentment towards them and many having increased their status over the years also find younger women attracted to them and do not want to commit.

So what is the consequence of all this for women in modern society?

22, by Lilly Allen:

When she was 22 the future looked bright
But she's nearly 30 now and she's out every night
I see that look in her face, she's got that look in her eye
She's thinking how did I get here and wondering why

It's sad but it's true how society says her life is already over
There's nothing to do and there's nothing to say
'Til the man of her dreams comes along
Picks her up and puts her over his shoulder
It seems so unlikely in this day and age

She's got an alright job but it's not a career
Whenever she thinks about it, it brings her to tears
'Cause all she wants is a boyfriend, she gets one night stands
She's thinking how did I get here, I'm doing all that I can

It's sad but it's true how society says her life is already over
There's nothing to do and there's nothing to say
'Til the man of her dreams comes along
Picks her up and puts her over his shoulder
It seems so unlikely in this day and age

It's sad but it's true how society says her life is already over
There's nothing to do and there's nothing to say
'Til the man of her dreams comes along
Picks her up and puts her over his shoulder
It seems so unlikely in this day and age

A Man's Reply to Modern Women: Animated Redux

2009-09-29T04:02:00.000-07:00

I made a couple of videos with the animated text-to-movie program Xtranormal using the text in my post: A Man's Reply to Modern Women. I uploaded it on Youtube as a bit of fun and another way of getting the message out there.

A Feminist has her Say

2009-09-20T19:56:00.000-07:00

Men have held back and oppressed women since time immemorial. Women could do anything a man could do if it weren't for men.....only better!!

Unfortunately men are intimidated by a 'strong and independent' woman (who only needs child support payments from three different fathers, female-only scholarship to study the enemy at college, while working as a stripper before marrying a rich feminist man who will defer to her until she is bored of him, where she will divorce him, take him to the cleaners and turn lesbian).

For example, women could be amongst the world champion boxers (having Superiorly pummeled many an unworthy male opponent, with his hands tied behind his back as affirmative action and equality), yet the evil Patriarchy has undermined women's choices to be professional boxers!!

Women will prevail over those evil monsters of men, monsters from social conditioning.....or could it be due to men's innate inferiority.....but gender is a social construct??? Damn, why is feminist theory so contradictory!!?

...oops....I'm not supposed to admit that, am I?

Anyway, its all men's fault for the way the world is, all the senseless violence and poverty is because of males. Women know that if men had let women take over as a Matriarchy, the world would be living in peaceful utopia. We may be living in environmentally friendly grass huts (this is the only thing women would allow men to invent), though everyone would be wrapped up in cotton wool (even though cotton wool would not be invented), safe and sound (except for that other pesky non-Matriarchal tribe that pillaged, plundered and took all the childbearing women).

In short the world would be a far better place, even if women had little time to run the Matriarchy because they spent most of it gathering berries to feed the men who merely threw a few spears at the wildlife...

...and I want a go at throwing spears too!!!

Oh...and any man who dares to oppose my views must have a really big penis, lots of girlfriends.....er, must have a really small.....oh never mind, its all men's fault for confusing me!!

Making Necessity a Virtue

2009-09-15T22:13:00.000-07:00

This is a corollary to: Being Nice is Not a Virtue by Tallyrand.

Many men previous to discovering the dark side of women, were 'nice' from a place of weakness, out of necessity, rather than a place of strength, confidence and self autonomy where being cordial, pleasant and cooperative is a choice.

Necessity is not a virtue.

After these men discover this dark side of women either from their own observations, via MRA, MGTOW or PUA sites or a combination thereof, many become angry with women for rejecting their niceness (weakness). This can be a difficult time for men who have taken the red pill and are in the midst of unplugging themselves from the matrix.

The problem is, while many men move on from their anger and bitterness, many others become consumed and stunted by it and some are actually proud of their so called ability to spurn women, as if it were some kind of action or moralistic stance.

Involuntary celibacy is not a virtue.

This attitude is especially prevalent in MGTOW and is a the major flaw within it's ranks.

I am being critical, though I do empathise with these men. However, I find it irritating and sad to hear angst ridden rantings about achievements in ignoring women as if getting their own back, where in reality, women are indifferent to what they do not care about.

I understand there are some men who are genuinely not interested in women anymore. I am not referring to them. It is those who hide behind their resentment of how women have treated them by putting up a pretense that they are no longer interested in women anymore, where in reality it is women who are not interested in them.

They will not accept that what women are attracted to in men is an inherent part of women's nature and cannot be changed.

The s o l u t i o n

Sluts and Studs

2009-08-10T06:17:00.000-07:00

Political correctness cannot mask the biological behaviors of humans.Yet feminism attempts to 'liberate' women's sexuality by playing the equality card and ignoring men's and women's innate differences.

A man must prove himself to acquire sexual partners, when a woman, even a not particularly attractive woman, could have sex many times a night merely by opening her legs. This is why promiscuous men are called studs and promiscuous women are called sluts.

Conversely, a woman must prove herself to a man, for him to commit to a relationship with her and if she has had many sexual partners, he will likely not respect her as she has given sex away so freely. He will have sex with her like the many other men, but will rather commit to a woman who values her sexuality.

I certainly don't advocate men run around having sex with any woman he can, however, as women ultimately are the selector and the restraint between men and women, this is the reason for the stigma of 'easy' women.

Feminists can argue all they like about how 'gender is a social construct', when one just has to look at the behaviours of men and women to realise that this theory is doing much damage to both men and women and the subsequent eroding gender roles in society.

Indifference Towards Women and Society's Expectations

2009-07-16T03:56:00.001-07:00

I am so past all this angst about women, my anger has turned into indifference. I get on with women fine. However my understanding of the bias within society towards women has become second nature to me, a given, if you will.

I will not let a women have the power over me that society sanctions. I will have fun with women and interact with them as I so please and I will not let society's disdain of masculinity limit me.

If women want to come along for the ride with me, all well and good. In fact, if one does not pander to women, and put them in their place if they use their privileged position in society to attempt to shame, insult or emasculate, they become more attracted. This is masculine power; this is the Yang to counter balance a woman's Yin. A strong independent man who takes no shyte is what women want. However more importantly it corresponds to life being so much simpler and easier not having to deal with society's expectations and the twaddle that comes with it anymore.

I read the MRA/MGTOW boards and see other men who are going through anger and angst, but I don't feel that way anymore. I guess I have come to the other side and whether or not there will be a paradigm shift in my lifetime, and I hope there will be, I am going my own way happily regardless.

I would like to make a plea to others who are still angry with women to find peace within themselves. This is certainly not kowtowing to mainstream society and all the manginas that allow women to behave as they do, but to not let all who allow the inequities in western society: feminists, government, the mainstream media, etc to get us down.

We can hold our heads up high as men and rather than get angry in reaction to what we see around us, we can nonchalantly make fun of any attempts to shame or emasculate as it is this very reaction that shows we are not part of the flock that allows themselves to be controlled.

Don't wait for society to change, it is up to us to change ourselves for the better and be an example to others by our actions. The more men who do this, the more of a critical mass will ensue resulting in a societal shift over time.

A Man's Reply to Modern Women

2009-04-29T02:22:00.000-07:00

· Men are threatened by a successful woman

Men are all too aware that women judge men on their occupation, assets and are interested in men of equal or higher status than them, not lower. Seems to me that men are being realistic, not intimidated. However these successful women may consider that the higher up the ladder they go, the less men of same or higher status there are. Conversely, men of high status (by women’s standards) have the largest choice of women available. Their only asset he is interested in: feminine beauty.

· Men’s ego is their most fragile instrument

Women’s egos are just as fragile. When men put women up on a pedestal their egos inflate like a hot air balloon. However if men are indifferent and make humorous fun of women, they keep coming back for more.

· Men are so frightened of our rejection that they can't be men

Actually, they are men just protecting themselves; they’re just not taking advantage of being indifferent and making humorous fun of you.

· I can't change a man – without getting him ready for the next woman

You have no right to change a man, as he has none to change you. If a man ALLOWS you to change him, you will not respect him because you can control him. If you cannot change a man, well....maybe you were attracted to his strong sense of individualism in the first place?

Oh, and do you think that the next woman wants your wussie 'changed man' after you have chewed him and spat him out?

· Men want to cohabitate with us but don't want to marry us

Men don’t want to make the ultimate commitment to you. Maybe they are not sure you are marriage material. Maybe there is something you could do to change that. Maybe it is not our problem....but yours.

· When I take the initiative men back off

Could be many reasons why, but is probably just a bit of what men routinely face in the dating game....REJECTION.

· Men won’t listen

Men do listen, they do not listen and respond in the way your girlfriends do. We are not women, we are men. If you get a chance to observe two or more men interacting with each other, you might learn something.

· Men can’t get in touch with their feelings

Men are very in touch with their feelings. In fact men do not have to express their feelings all the time to others to validate them. When observing men interacting, you will notice when a man expresses his “feelings” to another, the respondent will reply with a solution to the problem, that’s what negative feelings are to a man, a problem to be solved.

Women… well I’m a man and I’m not supposed to understand their complexities but here's a guess: feelings are drama and entertainment, like a soap opera, they are analyzed and expounded upon until another dramatic feeling comes along.

Unfortunately if a man expresses his feelings to a woman too much, he will be accused of being a wuss. Damned if ya do, damned if ya don’t, eh.

· 50% of men already in relationships cheat

And what percentages of women cheat? Are there a small group of extremely promiscuous women out there tempting these men or are you women going to take some of the responsibility for this problem?

· After he says "your special” I never see him again

What, was this before or after you’d had sex? Actions speak louder than words. Women have a version of this to let men know they are not interested in going further: “lets just be friends”

· Men have so few friends

In comparison to what, women? Do you want us to be like you or something? You could add us to your girly friends list when we do!

·'Girly' magazines are so big with men

Cleo, Cosmo, romance novels, soap operas etc get your juices going too! Do I have to say it again....do you want us to be like you or something?

· Men can’t ask for help

Where's that dependant wuss boyfriend of yours when you need him to fix the car....

Men like a challenge and will try to do it on their own, before getting help if they need to. Stop trying to negate a positive masculine trait that you occasionally find annoying, when mostly....you love it, eh.

....he’s asking the sexy, masculine neighbour for help.

· Men spend too much time watching sports even when they say they want more time with their families

What is “time with their families” anyway? What women want to do? What is too much sports? 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 hour, 30 minutes a day, or the big game on Saturday? How about women watch to much soap operas, Dr Phil, Oprah, spend too much time on the phone gossiping etc etc etc. Maybe watching sports with their sons could be 'time with family'? Maybe men work more hours than women and so have less 'time with family' As long as he doesn’t annoy you when you are gossiping to your friends on the phone, you could stop nagging him when he is watching sports.

· Men can’t let a friendship develop and then if sex happens, it happens

Because men know if a woman classifies him as a friend, it’ll never happen!.........and I'm a male explaining female behaviour to a female HAHA!

· When I’m with a man I see his open and vulnerable parts. And then when he gets around other men, he closes them off.

That is because you have accepted him as a masculine man and for your relationship to develop he shows his softer side to you. Unless he is gay, he has no need to show this to other men. What advantage could he possibly get from showing his vulnerable side to other men? From other men is how he shaped his masculinity, of which you were attracted to first place. If he showed his vulnerability to everyone and their dog, he would not be valued as a man, not even by you.

Men do on occasion, show their vulnerable side to select men they trust, but is only to fix a problem and find a solution, otherwise there is no reason to do so. This is something that you are not privy to because it is male territory and frankly, as a woman is not your concern.

· Men are so preoccupied with their jobs even when they’re losing contact with their family

Men are the providers and don’t bother with feminist doctrine about equality. If a man does not have an income or assets, he is not valued by society. They are so preoccupied with their jobs BECAUSE OF THEIR FAMILY!!!!!!!!!!!!

· Men are like little boys underneath

We all have an 'inner child', eh.

· Men have contempt for women on one hand (witness their jokes) and put them on a pedestal on the other hand

Some men put women on a pedestal and others have a healthy humorous indifference about women. Nice guy or seducer, which one gets your juices flowing?

· Men are "just desserts" but I'm willing to give up so much for a little banana split

So what did you have for your main course? Maybe you just prefer shopping to men? Is it your self-respect that you are so willing to give up? You must make very silly CHOICES when it comes to men. However if you do not want to take responsibility for your choice in men, repeat ten times: MEN ARE ALL BASTARDS!

· Men rape

Yes and we are all capable of it, though few take advantage of it. However women can and do, with no evidence, accuse men of rape, their careers, reputation gone and their personal life in tatters, even before the false allegation gets to court.

· Men are just interested in conquest – that's the real excitement for men

Is this not how we came to live in the standard we now live in? Men like a challenge and men built buildings, infrastructure, government, sciences, inventions etc etc etc. Is this a criticism or are you giving us a compliment!

· Men always feel they have to promise love even when they’re not in love

Do you require they say they love you before you will sleep with them?

All men want to fuck; some men will say they love you in the hope of getting a fuck, even when they don’t.

Honest men will let you know they want to fuck.

· Women earn only 59% of what a men earns even when their contribution is "indispensable"

WTF, more feminist doctrine. When women have children, they either don’t work or work less than men in paid employment. Women also CHOOSE to work in occupations that don’t pay as well. This is why women earn less than men, because men are supporting them.

Think about this, a man and a woman in a job interview with the same experience and qualifications as each other, the man will cost the employer 41 percent more to employ....NO EMPLOYER WOULD EVER HIRE A MAN!

· Men have power and they don't want to give it up

More feminist propaganda. A small minority of men has the power; most men have no option but to shovel the shit to feed their families.

· Men can't admit it when they’re wrong

And some women have this stubborn habit too.

· I’m an attractive woman. I have lots of options. Yet so many men I end up with are insensitive

So, the more attractive a woman is, the more she requires sensitivity in men? I thought they left the wussies for the ugly girls with no options...

· My father criticized me too often

My mother criticized me too often. I think she saw things in a different way because she was female and I was male....maybe you could have a think about that.

· Men are so paranoid about homosexuality

Are you attracted to homosexual (and I’m not referring to your fantasy of being so damned sexy that you manage to seduce a gay man straight) effeminate men?

· I’d like to be able to get lovey-dovey without it necessarily leading to intercourse, but that's too much to ask from a man

I’d like to have intercourse with a woman without it leading to getting lovey-dovey, but that’s too much to ask from a woman.

· When I meet a man I often think he’s wonderful—I tell all my women friends and I’m elated; then he disappoints me once, then twice. Before I know it I think he’s a jerk. Yet I’m still tempted to stay with him.

Well, if he had disappointed you by not disappointing you, he would have been such a “nice guy” that you would have just wanted to “be friends”.

· Male leaders get into too many wars (it would be different if a women led)

"In response to the invasion, the British government under Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher declares a war zone for 200 miles (320 km) around the Falklands, assembles a naval task force with which to retake the islands, and launches long range air attacks from the mid-Atlantic Ascension island on the airfield in Port Stanley to disrupt the flow of supplies to the Argentine forces. From start to finish, this strange undeclared war lasted 72 days, claimed about 1000 casualties, and had a cost of at least 2 billion dollars. From a political point of view, it secured the reelection of Margaret Thatcher". source:http://www.ability.org.uk/falklands-war.html

· Men who aren’t macho are often.. well....Wimps

If we are aloof and indifferent, you complain we aren’t open enough. If we get all open and touchy feely, you complain we are acting like wimps.

As women try to compete with men, men should poke fun at them. when women realise they can never compete, men will throw women a bit of sensitivity....when they’ve earned it. As for wussies or wimps, they just need to unlearn all the feminist propaganda that has deeply infiltrated western society.

· Men are afraid of commitment

Men are less likely to commit if women continue to give away what men want willy-nilly (we thought you preferred wild anonymous sex too!). If they do commit they are afraid that the woman will separate, taking the kids, assets, and a percentage of his income until the kids are adults....now what are the advantages of commitment for a man then?

· If I could wish anything from my relationship with a man, it would be to have more honesty

What, you want him to be more honest than you are with him?

· There are no men who are sensitive and strong—who are not already taken up

I think maybe you have climbed far too high up the corporate ladder. There are many men who are far stronger than their bank balances but you are not interested in them, eh?

· Men and women are so against each other

Its good you’re taking some responsibility.

· Men can't see the forest for their ego’s

Women can’t see the forest for their sense of entitlement. Women have a sense of entitlement because they think they are a special gender. Women think they are a special gender because their egos have become much too inflated.

Bad Boys, Nice Guys and Real Men™

2009-04-29T02:01:00.000-07:00

For years, I tried to hammer a square peg into a round hole by falling for the feminist brainwashing that "you need to get in touch with your emotions" etc. Has it ever occurred to women that a man is indifferent because he actually feels indifferent? Maybe he has no need or desire to talk about emotions and the reason why nice guys do is because they base all their self worth on how women perceive them.

Unfortunately the missing piece of the puzzle is that nice guys only take into account what women actually state, not their actions. Now the other problem is swinging over to the other end of the spectrum and replacing the lost piece of the puzzle with trying to ACT tough, aloof and indifferent. This will not work in the long term and will only continue the negativity because the root of the problem has not been dealt with. Acting like a bad boy is still supplicating to women in a different but equally disempowering sense as is trying to be a nice guy.

The solution is simple, we men must pull back the power we give to women and focus on ourselves, for ourselves, not women. We need to find out how we really "feel" when we no longer value ourselves based on how successful we are in attracting women.

THIS IS THE TOUGH BIT We must let go of everything we have built our identity on regarding attracting women and find out once and for all who we really are, how we really want to live our lives, based on our own values. Could it be that when we really give up disempowering ourselves that we no longer have "feelings" of depression, anxiety, low self worth etc?

Could this be the end of seeking a substitute for the masculinity that was always within us?

Could this be the path to becoming a strong confident and well-adjusted man?

Here's the dichotomy, will a man do what's best for himself, taking the risk that women may overtly show disapproval or will he continue to sell himself out by supplicating to women? Men who try to be a nice guy or a bad boy or whatever may just be reacting to their insecurity. There are many negative consequences to these actions: supplicating to women by spending vast amounts of time, money and self respect to win a few crumbs of affection is prostituting ourselves as much as risking a criminal record, our neck, and self respect, trying to impress women. The energy could be put into doing the things we want in our lives and could it possibly be, that maybe, just maybe, women, deep down, want to love and respect a man in his own right, with a strong sense of who he is, what his moral code is, what his boundaries are, and could it be that this is the very essence of what a woman ultimately wants when she says she wants a "real man".

However, it is men who must define what a "real man" is, not women and this is the very reason why he exists and why she responds to him.

Evolution of Masculinity

2009-04-29T01:44:00.000-07:00

I find it ironic that men have strived to evolve during our time on earth and that the very blood sweat and tears of men has actually caused the situation that we have now in the western world.

Our innate desire to protect our women and children, thus ensuring the next generation survives that is inherent in our imperative to evolve, has actually brought about the modern society we now live in today.It is only in the current position of advanced technology and abundant energy, in which men invented and discovered, that feminism could take hold and what we see about us now is the result of our stoicism and protective instinct that has served us (and women) well for millenia.

This stoicism and protective instinct has now become our very downfall. Even in this climate of misandry where the only thing that the modern man now seems to identify as masculinity is sports, beer, how many notches are on his bed post and the media portraying him as a simple, ineffective, bumbling idiot.

However many men are also still clinging to the world of olde where men deferred to women, never complained and never talked about their problems. These attributes were part of how civilisation came to being as men who complained, talked about their feelings or did not protect his family would be sitting in an empty uncultivated field with starving women and children and no roof over his head....or worse.

However, in these modern times of abundant everything, there is no need to consider women weaker, defer to them (they are in no danger, the government and its institutions make sure of that) or concern ourselves about being shamed by them because we dare to actually stand up to to them, as by not doing so, is the very reason why we are now relegated to our current position within modern society.

Since feminism took hold, society has actually twisted men's natural stoic disposition to attempt to shame men into a position of weakness by not standing up for themselves rather than this being a position of strength as it was before. This is the foundation of where feminism gets its power from and when men see no other alternative, as anything overtly masculine is deemed malevolent by society, they become emasculated. Conversely other men rebel by embracing the well recognised and advertised, destructive elements of masculinity, thereby becoming self fulfilling prophecy.

In fact I would consider we as men are for all intents and purposes defunct. Not in the sense that our masculinity is defunct, on the contrary, many of us have only discovered our true essence of masculinity when we took the red pill and rejected modern societal norms and expectations. What I mean is our role that is biologically hardwired into us is now defunct, as employed, "strong and independent"women do not need us anymore. I think that this is why women now respond to to men they cannot control (so called 'jerks' or 'badboys', though the term jerk, much of the time, is used as a shaming tactic that both women and men throw around as a control mechanism) and no longer men who are loyal and trustworthy, or productive (so called 'nice-guys').

To be frank, I think that this situation will continue until life becomes more difficult due to a dramatic downward change in the world economy or a large percentage of the world's population is culled by war or pestilence.

Part of me hesitates to say this because that part does not want to think about it. But, this is the same part of me that wants everything to be easy, where nothing takes effort and my life will be great when I acquire [insert materialistic object] and is only a continuation of the problem.

However, another part of me understands that my sense of self respect only comes from facing challenges and overcoming them. That the highs of life are but fleeting and that focusing on the journey, not the destination is the key to subverting the lows. I consider this is what true masculinity is founded upon, seeking validation not from the external, where we have no direct control, but the internal, where we certainly do.

We cannot control feminists or the misandrists within our society, we cannot wait for the day that the world comes crumbling down so we can see women fall from their pedestal, as it may not even happen in our lifetimes and society may even change without hitting rock bottom.

However, men who understand the falsety of our culture can cast off the shackles of the both the old world as well as the new and evolve in response. In the short term, we may to go through the turbulent process of unplugging from the matrix. However once the anger and angst dissipates somewhat, we can see that we are actually in a wonderful position that few men have ever been in. We are emancipated from our previous roles and can express our masculinity freely without the sanctions of obligation from the past or the illusionary sanctions feminism has misplaced upon men in the present.