There is something very wrong with MGTOW. Instead of talking about 'men going their own way', we see...
-Anti-Americanism (or other rants against one's mother country)
-Declarations of Chicken Little economic/social/cultural collapse.
-Religious screeds against a particular religion or against all religions.
-Evangelizing the 'Deck-Stacked-Against-Us-Have-No-Hope' view of society (which is unproductive)
-Evangelizing that one ought to live like a Mexican...
-...or another country...
-Forums become a 'Yes!' echo chamber. There is no discussion, just rants filled with yes-men.
'elements' are well known but ignored because of the 'good things' that
do come out. We should just shrug off these things and compromise with
them. Well, there is one problem.
When food and poison
compromise, which is the victor? It is the poison. Eating it may be
sustaining... for the short term... but your body fills up with these
poison toxins. You begin to lose your ambition, your passion, and
generally become filled with bitterness.
I have wondered how this
is occurring. It is not uncommon. Many 'movements' somehow get filled
with negative filled people with anger issues and other wackos. But not
all movements. So how did MGTOW become a container for this garbage?
answer is that MGTOW is founded on a negative itself: avoidance of
woman. This has caused blanket rants against women. "But many of these
rants are accurate, Pook!" So what? A farmer can rant all day about the
unfairness of frost, but that will not get him anywhere. There is no
cosmic justice out there. The world is what it is and its better to live
in it that in a hyper-reality.
Perhaps this will hit more to the
point. How many years has MGTOW existed? And what has changed since
then? Really, nothing has changed at all.
But I have to wonder
why no one in MGTOW can keep to the subject. Pick any random thread and
you will find someone start going off the reservation of a speech
against a religion or another unasked for soapbox sermon on some oddball
subject. Often, many will randomly insert his "brilliant" assertion
that civilization will collapse in ten years.
MGTOW is based on
the belief that men have made mistakes (which should be spared making
mistakes). These mistakes can include marriage, being nice guy, being
worshipful to women, and so on. All these mistakes have a common theme:
egotism. When the man got married, he was so sure he was doing the right
thing and the naysayers were all jealous villains.
Since so many
join MGTOW based on being wrong in the past, why does everyone act like
they are right all the time? It is amazing! The egotism never died. It
just shifted into new forms. This would explain why someone can't keep
to the subject of MGTOW and instead must start bashing a religion,
bashing a country, or bashing something else. One can be right on
something and be wrong on other things. But MGTOW do not see that. They
act like they have suddenly become right on everything (so they become
vocal on it).
If we were wrong in the past, and it damaged our
lives (such as getting married to a fiend), why do we strut around as if
we have such 'wisdom'? If we were so wrong once, we could be wrong
again. Yet, this reservation is nowhere to be found in MGTOW. Every man
has his own pet theories. The dogs slip their leash and begin to ravage
the good content.
To be honest, I don't see many happy MGTOW.
There are no celebrations about being 'free' but complaining about...
something. Trust me; celebrations and good cheer are far more effective
and contagious than "being right all the time".
society, people do not like being around someone 'right all the time'.
Even if they are right, they are downright annoying. People prefer
light-hearted, good cheered fun. When I think of MGTOW, 'good cheer' is
the last to come to mind. MGTOW isn't about being alive as it is about
For as much as we mock feminists for being
negative, for getting with women to talk bad about men, it is becoming
more and more clear that MGTOW is becoming more like the mirror image.
Behavior by behavior, a MGTOW male acts very similar to a feminist in
lifestyle and habit. You begin to live alone, have meetings with guys to
'talk bad about women' (to ease existential pains), and write bad
I think it is becoming clear that marriage and children
is a natural longing in not just women but men as well. Nature did not
intend gender avoidance. I believe generally everyone is repelled by the
negative pessimistic tone found on MGTOW. However, people return
consistently for a dose of the poison to ease the existential pain
(caused by the natural longing of wife and children which is found in
every culture and time). Once convinced by the rantings that women are
more painful than pleasurable, the male goes off semi-satisfied. But,
alas, the natural longing creeps up again causing the male to return.
why, it must be requited. I hear how I am censured:
they say I will bear myself proudly, if I perceive
the love come from her; they say too that she will
rather die than give any sign of affection. I did
never think to marry: I must not seem proud: happy
are they that hear their detractions and can put
them to mending. They say the lady is fair; 'tis a
truth, I can bear them witness; and virtuous; 'tis
so, I cannot reprove it; and wise, but for loving
me; by my troth, it is no addition to her wit, nor
no great argument of her folly, for I will be
horribly in love with her. I may chance have some
odd quirks and remnants of wit broken on me,
because I have railed so long against marriage: but
doth not the appetite alter? a man loves the meat
in his youth that he cannot endure in his age.
Shall quips and sentences and these paper bullets of
the brain awe a man from the career of his humour?
No, the world must be peopled. When I said I would
die a bachelor, I did not think I should live till I
were married.-"Much Ado About Nothing", Shakespeare
MGTOW is equally damned.